Strange New Worlds

[pH]

I'm at my daughter's who has those streaming services.

No TV at my house so the upshot is that I got to watch an episode of
"Strange New Worlds" that I chose somewhat at random from Year Two.

My, what an estrogen fest it was with just a few token men. One of the
'boss babe' girls--who I'm admittedly assuming was human--was beating up and
taking out Klingons with ease.

I am wondering if SNW is a different timeline or somethin wherein the
Klingons are *not* massively stronger than the average human. Don't
know,,,,

I will probably watch more episodes but I did find the change from
"traditional" quite noticable.

...but it was sure better than Discovery in any event! (my opinion, of
course).

I'm also quite happy to see all the fan-produced Trek there out there on
YouTube etcetera. Of course it's all uneven in production quality/acting
but I appreciate it's from lovers of Trek so accept it for what it is.

Any other SNW opinions?

pH in Aptos

[superkuh]

SNW is pretty hit or miss. There are a couple of good episodes in there.
I loved the cross-over with Lower Decks.

If you really want a TNG/DS9/VOY like show that understands what star
trek is supposed to be a recommend watching Lower Decks instead.

[John]

Post by pH
My, what an estrogen fest it was with just a few token men. One of the
'boss babe' girls--who I'm admittedly assuming was human--was beating up and
taking out Klingons with ease.

Modern TREK, unlike the 60's version doesn't take science too seriously.
Roddenberry consulting RAND on his science is a far cry from today's
TREK that understands science from the viewpoint of a typical artsy
California-dweller.

So, not sure which character you mean, but one possibility is the
security officer descended from the infamous Khan Noonian-Singh.
Now Khan was engineered to be a top-notch fighter, but there are human
limits. The end result needs to have large powerful muscles (as Ricardo
Montalban, the actor who played Khan did). The Security Officer is
small and pretty scrawny looking.

The other option is Nurse Chapel. She along with Dr. Mbenga (and BTW,
where is McCoy?) Did some Klingon A kicking with the help of a 'combat
drug'. And again, there are limits. Strength and reaction can be
improved, but up to a limit. For example, the already skinny nurse with
upgraded muscles may still not be to the level of an average body
builder (or Klingon warrior). And it won't prevent super strong
muscles from directly or indirectly causing their supporting bones to
break, or tendons tearing, etc. Genetic engineering could do that, but I
don't think a drug with short term effect would build up bone then take
it down again. And again the writers make it seem almost magical. The
other item is combat training. Klingons do it all the time. Mbenga has
a history of it, but I see nothing from Chapel. An ordinary occasional
gym workout is not combat training btw.

-J

[pH]

Post by John

Post by pH
My, what an estrogen fest it was with just a few token men. One of the
'boss babe' girls--who I'm admittedly assuming was human--was beating up and
taking out Klingons with ease.

Modern TREK, unlike the 60's version doesn't take science too seriously.
Roddenberry consulting RAND on his science is a far cry from today's
TREK that understands science from the viewpoint of a typical artsy
California-dweller.
So, not sure which character you mean, but one possibility is the
security officer descended from the infamous Khan Noonian-Singh.
Now Khan was engineered to be a top-notch fighter, but there are human
limits. The end result needs to have large powerful muscles (as Ricardo
Montalban, the actor who played Khan did). The Security Officer is
small and pretty scrawny looking.
The other option is Nurse Chapel. She along with Dr. Mbenga (and BTW,
where is McCoy?) Did some Klingon A kicking with the help of a 'combat
drug'. And again, there are limits. Strength and reaction can be
improved, but up to a limit. For example, the already skinny nurse with
upgraded muscles may still not be to the level of an average body
builder (or Klingon warrior). And it won't prevent super strong
muscles from directly or indirectly causing their supporting bones to
break, or tendons tearing, etc. Genetic engineering could do that, but I
don't think a drug with short term effect would build up bone then take
it down again. And again the writers make it seem almost magical. The
other item is combat training. Klingons do it all the time. Mbenga has
a history of it, but I see nothing from Chapel. An ordinary occasional
gym workout is not combat training btw.
-J

Catching another episode it did indeed turn out to be nurse Chapel.
Maybe she was thrashing all the Klingons to get their recipe for Polak(sp?)
soup to make for Spock at a later episode.....

Thank-you for a thoughtful and lengthy reply.

pH in Aptos

[Wouter Valentijn]

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Post by John

Post by pH
My, what an estrogen fest it was with just a few token men. One of the
'boss babe' girls--who I'm admittedly assuming was human--was beating up and
taking out Klingons with ease.

Modern TREK, unlike the 60's version doesn't take science too seriously.
Roddenberry consulting RAND on his science is a far cry from today's
TREK that understands science from the viewpoint of a typical artsy
California-dweller.
So, not sure which character you mean, but one possibility is the
security officer descended from the infamous Khan Noonian-Singh.
Now Khan was engineered to be a top-notch fighter, but there are human
limits. The end result needs to have large powerful muscles (as Ricardo
Montalban, the actor who played Khan did). The Security Officer is
small and pretty scrawny looking.
The other option is Nurse Chapel. She along with Dr. Mbenga (and BTW,
where is McCoy?) Did some Klingon A kicking with the help of a 'combat
drug'. And again, there are limits. Strength and reaction can be
improved, but up to a limit. For example, the already skinny nurse with
upgraded muscles may still not be to the level of an average body
builder (or Klingon warrior). And it won't prevent super strong
muscles from directly or indirectly causing their supporting bones to
break, or tendons tearing, etc. Genetic engineering could do that, but I
don't think a drug with short term effect would build up bone then take
it down again. And again the writers make it seem almost magical. The
other item is combat training. Klingons do it all the time. Mbenga has
a history of it, but I see nothing from Chapel. An ordinary occasional
gym workout is not combat training btw.
-J

Catching another episode it did indeed turn out to be nurse Chapel.
Maybe she was thrashing all the Klingons to get their recipe for Polak(sp?)
soup to make for Spock at a later episode.....
Thank-you for a thoughtful and lengthy reply.
pH in Aptos

Plomeek.

Best served with calm. No smashing on the wall.